joeyboy123:
To argue against it, putting religeon aside, I think that, and many studies have proven, to raise a child, a father and mother do best. but I suppose that isn’t marriage, let me put it this way. I think the act of what they’re doing is wrong, and they won’t be able to have a successful marriage while continuing to live that way. Marriages simply don’t work the way they’re meant to when people have such intentions. I wouldn’t endorse many strait marriages either for the same reason.I believe marriage without religeon is possible, but not as successful. When religeon goes, morality follows. and I’ve seen to many horrible marriages based on sin. It originated to be preventative of sin, therefore I don’t think it can work to endorse it. I don’t think such couples should ask for God’s blessing when they don’t believe in god.
If religeon is absolutely out of the picture, the couple doesn’t care about any of that they just get a big lightning bolt to the heart and they don’t want to work or do anything, except run off and make babies (or not even that in some cases) and live happily in love with each other, then i would say go for it, do what you want. But don’t associate your marriage to a Christian Marriage in the slightest, because that is offensive.
i sort o f rammbled, but to sum it up: 1. I think homosexual love is artificial and not strong enough for marriage. 2. It defiles Christian Marriage. 3. By all means if they want to be legally united, the state shouldn’t prevent them, but it should not be under God. 4. The point of marriage is to be under God, and that’s why it doesn’t work for them. They should have the right to wear rings and be united in the eyes of the government (though I discourage it). God and marriage yes. Gays and marriage no. Gays uniting in love (fake to me) but it should be their right. Saying Gay Marriage is a contradiction in itself. That’s my argument. So if you were to take religeon out of that argument, then genuine marriage would not be impossible, but the rights that marriage permits in this country should be for everyone. Being united (with anyone) is fine with me, as I’ve reitterated, but it’s insulting and wrong to simply water down a Christian marriage to serve that purpose. Religeous matramony among gays is wrong and impossible, as it is for anyone without the intention of serving God or of serving each other with vile intentions.
First off, there are many studies showing a same-sex couple can raise children just as effectively as a heterosexual couple.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051012/study-same-sex-parents-raise-well-adjusted-kids
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-01-21-parentgender21_ST_N.htm
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/514477
So yeah, you’re wrong. If kids raised by same-sex couples are hurt in any way by their parents, it has nothing to do with the parents’ sexual orientation. In fact, it might have something to do with laws against gay couples. Here’s another article talking about the effects discrimination against same-sex couples has on their children:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/children-sex-parents-harmed-anti-gay-laws-study/story?id=14862339#.TwEhSdQ9mjM
Let me also point out that marriages precede Christianity. In fact, marriages predate recorded history. So, no, I don’t want your “Christian marriage.” I want a legal marriage involving the institution that has existed longer than your religion has. I don’t want to be married “under God.” I don’t even believe in God. I just want to be married. I don’t believe churches should be made to perform same-sex marriages - if a certain one doesn’t want to do so, whatever. However, some do. That’s not your choice…. let me just also point out that Paul, who homophobic Christians tend to quote when they want to make an argument against same-sex marriage - he actually believed marriage should be purely about sex. He believed people should marry someone so they wouldn’t have sex before marriage. So much for this pure love you’re talking about.
“I think homosexual love is artificial and not strong enough for marriage”
Fuck you fuck you fuck you. There are same-sex couples that have lived their whole life together. There are same-sex couples who have stayed with each other through awful diseases. There are same-sex couples who have died for each other. Who are YOU to say their love is artificial, you self-righteous dick? Who are you to say my love for my girlfriend is artificial? I love my girlfriend. I’d do anything for her. Screw you for thinking you can categorize that love as worth less than anyone else’s love.
I can’t even begin to rebut the original post. “Where religion goes morality follows”? How about the atrocities that have been committed in the name of God, or the great acts of compassion committed by people regardless of their beliefs?
Same-sex marriage “defiles” Christian marriage? How? My two best friends are a straight, married couple. I don’t defile their marriage—I attended their wedding at their invitation, for Christ’s sake! They would be the first to tell you that their marriage is neither so fragile or so sanctimonious.
The point of marriage is to be under God? The point of marriage is to bond two people together in a union that is stronger than either one alone, and to bond that couple to the community as well. If God enters into that arrangement for you or your community, fine, but I highly doubt it’s a necessity.